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Socktoberfest: A Comparison of Picot Edged Hem Bind Offs

Filed under: Knitting, Follow the Flock, Socktoberfest 2006, Tutorials — Kristi at 4:00 am on Wednesday, October 18, 2006

Picot Hemmed Bind Off Swatches

Over this past year I have grown fond of picot edges on the top of my socks. I like the nice flow it tends to create into nearly any stitch pattern I choose. I find ribbed tops can result in a rather abrupt change when the rest of the sock isn’t being knit in some variation of a rib. I have also grown appreciative of knitting socks from the toe up in order to maximize the leg length when the amount of yarn is in question. It never seems to fail that I want a picot edged sock when I’m knitting it from the toe up.

Picot Hemmed Bind Off Swatches StretchedThere are two main concerns about executing a picot edged hem on the bind off, especially when done as the top of a sock - stretchability so the sock leg can get past the heel and the least bulk on the inside of the sock as possible. Since there are many different options for tacking down the picot edge while binding off or after or skipping the bind off altogether I decided it was time to put on my old scientist hat and run an experiment to find the technique that works best for socks.

The picture at the top of this post are the 5 swatches I knit as they were blocking. Then I stretched each swatch to its max to see which techniques (if any) produced the most stretchable edge. I also took note of the profile of the wrong side of each swatch to see which one(s) would leave the least bulk on the inside of the sock.

My results can be found in the remainder of this post. Because it is kind of picture heavy please just click on “More” to view these results.

Profile of Picot Hem Bind Off #1 Here, the stretchier bind-off of k1, *k1, pass 2 sts back to lft ndle, k2tog tbl; rep from * to end was used and the purl bump picked up from the wrong side before passing the 2 sts on the rt ndl back to the lft so there was actually a k3tog tbl.

Swatch width was 11.5 cm, stretched to its max the width was 17.5 cm for a 52.2% stretchability.

The bulk is pretty significant and I think would be uncomfortable on the inside of a sock.

Profile of Picot Hem Bind Off #2 Here, the stretchier bind off of k1, * k1, pass 2 sts back to lft ndl, k2tog tbl, k1: rep from * to end was used and the purl bump picked up and knit with each regularly knit sts.

Swatch width was 11 cm, stretch to its max the width was 18 cm for a 63.6% stretchability.

The bulk on this one is even more significant than the previous swatch (see larger shadow) and I know would be uncomfortable on the inside of a sock, even if the stretchiness is significant.

Profile of Picot Hem Bind Off #3In swatch three, the standard bind off technique was used, but the appropriate purl bump was picked up and knit with each st, similar to a three needle bind off.

Swatch width was 12 cm, stretched to its max the width was 18 cm for a 50% stretchability.

The bulk of this one is much less than the previous swatch and a tad better than the first swatch as well. I think this one could be tolerated at the top of a sock, though the stretchiness wasn’t the best.

Profile of Picot Hem Bind Off #4 For swatch four no bind off was made. Instead, the yarn was cut at three times the width of the swatch and the live stitches tacked down by weaving the yarn strand through the live stitch and the appropriate purl bump across the length of the swatch. A little tug was given before weaving in the end to make sure enough give had been left in the sewing and to evenly distribute that give.

Swatch was 11 cm, stretched to its max the width was 18 cm for a 63.6% stretchability.

This swatch produced a decent stretch and gave the minimum bulk of all five techniques I tried. Even though it wasn’t executed while binding off it was quick and easy because you didn’t need to bother with binding off. This method I believe will be my preferred method for my toe-up socks with picot edges.

Profile of Picot Hem Bind Off #5 Swatch five was bound off as usual with a tail of yarn three times the width of the swatch left attached. Then, with the yarn running through the appropriate purl bump and the corresponding edge st from the bind off row the hem was tacked down.

The swatch width was 11 cm, stretched to its max the width was 17.25 cm for a 56.8% stretchability.

This swatch indicated an acceptable stretch and lower bulk than all of the swatches except the fourth one. This would also likely serve as an acceptable method for the picot edge of toe up socks.

From my experiments it appears that there is usually less bulk and more stretchiness to a picot edge on the bind off edge of a piece if you do not try to tack it down while in the process of knitting the bind off. The most stretchability and least bulk were present in the two swatches where the edge was tacked down after the fact, either live sts were tacked down or the bind off sts were tacked down. While it is “finishing work” which I try to avoid as much as posisble I felt like these two methods were the least fiddly to execute and that will likely be even more obvious when trying to execute it on the inside of small diameter object like a sock.

However, perhaps you’d like to try it out for yourself and see what works best for you!

25 Comments »

Comment by Cindy

October 18, 2006 @ 8:00 am

You did all the work for us. I am most definitely going to try a picot edge on my next pair of socks. Thanks Kristi!!!!

Comment by --Deb

October 18, 2006 @ 8:41 am

Great overview–thanks!

Comment by Lizzy B

October 18, 2006 @ 8:42 am

Interesting to be sure. I might have to experiment now. :)

Comment by Amanda

October 18, 2006 @ 10:06 am

Great post with tons of details! I’m a picot lover as well although since I knit cuff down generally I haven’t bothered with as much experimentation. This might be the motivation I needed for toe-up’s.

Comment by Stephanie

October 18, 2006 @ 10:14 am

Great comparisons. Thanks for going to all that work for us.

Comment by Sharon

October 18, 2006 @ 10:26 am

Thanks so much for the research - I’ve tried a picot edge a few times and not been happy with the results. Looks like I need to try it again and not worry about picking up the stitches as I go.

Comment by Jeanne

October 18, 2006 @ 11:37 am

Funny, I just finished my first ever picot edge on a sock, and hate it. Instead of redoing with ribbing, I’m going to try one of your finishes and see if I like that better. Thanks!

Comment by Julia

October 18, 2006 @ 12:13 pm

Really useful information there, Kristi. Thanks!

Comment by Carrie K

October 18, 2006 @ 2:37 pm

Oh, this is awesome, Kristi! I did a picot edge on a pair of baby socks, but I basically ended up flipping the booties inside out when I realized that it wasn’t going to fold down. (You know, instead of fixing it properly.)

This is great. Thanks!

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Comment by Chris

October 19, 2006 @ 7:30 pm

This is great info and very timely - a friend and I were just discussing the problem of bulky picot edges on socks! Thanks.

Comment by Abigail

October 19, 2006 @ 9:46 pm

Wow! Thank you for the tutorial. I’ve never done a picot edge before now I’m inspired.

However I was thinking if you did Elizabeth Zimmerman’s sewn bind off, would it reduce the bulk even more….

Comment by Rebecca

October 25, 2006 @ 5:23 am

Thanks so much for sharing! I wanted to try toe up socks for my next “plain” socks for myself, and I wanted to do a picot edge. I just saw your post in the Flickr group and now I have some ideas of the best way to try it.

Comment by karrie

October 27, 2006 @ 5:38 pm

This is so just what i was looking for. thanks so much!

Comment by Wanda

October 29, 2006 @ 10:29 am

This is interesting. I’ve seen the picot edge to socks and have been intrigued by it, but I tend to knit my socks cuff down. I’ll look into picot edges more for socks in the future. This is something I’ll need to explore more.

Comment by eca

June 26, 2007 @ 7:12 pm

wow… i just stumbled across this, but you’re amazing and i thank you for this post!

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Comment by Monica aka Gloria Patre

July 19, 2007 @ 7:43 pm

This has been fantastic but I’m a bit confused about the purl bump bit and the tacking down the row part. Any chance you can give a little more detail about what this is? No, sadly, I haven’t tried picot edging for my toe-up socks yet. I would like to but I’m rather confused now and thinking it’s harder than it looks … Lovely blog + awesome pics!

Comment by Maria

July 20, 2007 @ 9:49 am

Thank you for all your hard work and posting about it! I, too, am fond of the picot edge on socks.
I have an antique circular sock knitting machine that I do the picot edge on.
I have enjoyed your blog and all your talent.

Comment by Christina

January 4, 2008 @ 6:30 pm

Thank you for this great post!

I wasn’t looking for help with picot edges when I stumbled upon it. I was looking for help with the hem of a hat (We Call Them Pirates), where you have live stitches on a lining that you must “tack” to the wrong side of the hat.

I was getting ready to just wing it when I found this post and swatch #4 is just what I needed.

I’m now interested in trying a picot edge on my next pair of socks. Thanks again — for the experimentation time and sharing the write-up!

Comment by Michelle

March 23, 2008 @ 10:45 am

Thank you so much for this tutorial! I was making some stockinette socks and came across it, when looking for how to do a top picot-bind off! It worked perfectly!

Comment by StephCat

December 29, 2009 @ 3:44 pm

Wonderful comparison & summary! is it okay if I list your post as a reference in a pattern I’m writing? (if not, no biggie, just wanted to ask).

Comment by auntiemichal

February 20, 2010 @ 10:52 pm

Thanks for the objective and scientific report! I’m in the middle of a picot hem on toe-up socks (btw, you’re first in google!) and am using EZ’s sewn bind-off to maximize stretch. So far it’s going well. I wonder how it compares to your #4 technique?

Comment by Kim in Virginia

April 7, 2011 @ 12:34 pm

Thank you for this! I was hunting for how to do a picot cuff on toe up socks and your demonstration was exactly what I needed.

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